In full: Trevor Phillips on Sunday

Housing Sec Robert Jenrick explains why no self-isolation for the PM and Chancellor will not be needed despite a COVID isolation period for Health Secretary Sajid Javid.

He accepted that the public may have negative feelings over the news.

Other guests include the daughter of South Africa's founding father Nelson Mandela on the unrest in the country, Labour's Shadow Health Secretary Jonathan Ashworth and Conservative MP Damian Green.

Trevor also heard from Chartered Management Institute Chief Executive Ann Francke.

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